protesters - and the protesters who protest them : Houston Indymedia

Geez, 1,000,000 Saddam supporters marching in Rome.

750,000 Saddam fans marching in London.

500,000 Saddam admirers marching in New York.

Thankfully, we only had 3,000 embarrassments in Houston

God Bless the men and women who understand that FREEDOM is worth fighting for.

PeaceNiks are women and children who generally are stupid on matters of war...as for the males over the age of 18...cowards pure and simple...and my money is on that all of them are dope heads that have minimum wage jobs who are still weeping on the LOSS of Al Gore...

The peaceNiks who showed up in Houston...are all cowards and Al Gorons who still can't accept that the USA has a real leader in the White House who can see beyond his trouser trout and can handle REAL threats, threatening our country.

PeaceNiks are a waste of air...the American public still support the war 65% to 35%...and they will still be whining about HOW unfair when the Iraqi people are free and Saddam is gone...hopefully DEAD!

Thanks to the thousands of patriotic and peaceful Houstonians who came out in mass to demand peace. We made history yesterday and our huge numbers easily drowned out the pathetic drumbeat for war and those who midlessly follow that destructive path.

please tell my father, a veteran against war, that he is a coward. my father is no pacifist, he just knows that the government (liberal or conservative) is full of shit and that you patriots for war are brainwashed and ignorant to how the government is swallowing your liberties as you defend it. please study into the total information awareness, homeland security, and patriot acts and you will realize that the u.s. government cares nothing about yours or my freedom.
we are being engulfed by a police state with republican flourishes.

the government wants to gain control of oil and dominate the world.

mr. patriot, most likely you will not recieve any of the benifits of war..they will go to shell, haliburton, boeing, lockheed, etc.

mr patriot, if you actually care about freedom as you announce, then you would be against the government that wishes to dominate life.

governments cannot grant freedom, it is taken.

Iraq does possess W.M.D and has tried to develope Nukes. This is a known by George 2 (the lesser) and his cohorts, because King George 1 (the asswipe,) and Ronnie MC Reagan ( along with Italy, France and a few other countries) helped Iraq get these weapons. It was part of their plan to make sure the region remained unstabalized and thus safe for Anglo-Amerikan oil companies. How much of these weapons are left noone can be sure, but I belive Iraq is still hiding some (what would you do if a bully demanded you hand over all your weapons?)
But don't mis understand me, I am not for this war on Iraq. History has shown that in war, the people are the ones to suffer not sawed-off tyrants like osama Hussein Bush. The colonial occupational government in this land is asking you to help to defeat the equally illegit government in Iraq. While I belive that the liberating of the oppressed people of Iraq (and every where else for that matter) would be a good thing it's not going to happen under the guise of government. What we need to do is stop waving blood stained flags and raise up as a people to rid the world of tyrants. For their will be no real lasting peace untill people like Hussein is strangled with the guts of people like Bush.
No War but Class war!

It is our constitutional right to voice resistance to the war mongers who lead the government. They say they represent the majority of US citizens. Well, the turnout in Houston says otherwise. We are not cowards, we are patriotic americans who believe in the constitution. We, the people, of this great country have the right to a voice and a right to wish peace in the world. Just because we protest does not mean that we are pro-Saddam, although if our government is allowed to invade countries and change governments, we are being set up for disaster. Who then will stop other countries from invadng the US when those countries decide that they do not like or approve of our leaders. Who will protect our shores and the citizens in which it harbors from the same kind of invasion that our government is perpetrating in other parts of the world. If the people do not protest these kind of pre-emptive invasions/wars, I'm sorry to say that our freedom in the future will be threatened. So, to all you anti-protest people, just remember: We are patriotic americans that respect the laws of the land, we are educated, we do know the history of wars, and we will have our voice heard.

you are crazy
being nti-war is not synonymous with being pro-saddam

God Bless the men and women who understand that FREEDOM is worth fighting for.
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Whose freedom? Mine? Yours? Iraq has *no* capability of attacking the U.S., sits on top of vital resources we'd like access to, and is full of poor people who we're going to kill to "liberate," only to oppress further by installing another Saddam Hussein. Give me a break, moron. If we go to war, I want you to wait a couple of years and then go visit Iraq -- I guarantee you that the Iraqi people won't be free even then, unless they take matters into their own hands.

I'm no coward or pacifist -- I'll fight if I think it's necessary and justified. This war is *not* necessary, *nor* is it justified. As for the "dope head" crack, I think you need to take a look at the pictures of the Feb. 15th rally more closely -- these people are your brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, neighbors, friends, and co-workers. I work for an oil company, make a decent amount of money, own a house, and have a wife and three dogs. Nope, not a dope head with a minimum wage job.

My father, by the way, is against the war, and he proudly served our country for 20 years (and he voted for Bush, as well) -- call him a coward, and I'll take you on myself.

As God, I am ordering the people of my country where my divinity is most respected, to gather up all these PeaceNiks and airdrop them to the country they seem to love more than their own, Iraq. Here they will learn about the freedom the government of Iraq has to do whatever it wants to you, including rape, murder and torture. The regime of Iraq would love these weak belittled people to satisfy their sadistic pleasures.

Disgusting. You can't argue your point as yourself, so you put up an *extremely* disrespectful, blasphemous, and insulting post claiming to be God. You should be ashamed of yourself.

If you're so hot to go into Iraq, why don't *you* go over there and pick up a gun? Put up or shut up, pal -- I've got some friends in the armed forces that I'd like you to trade places with, so *they* can at least come home alive. (And by the way, if God wanted me airdropped into Iraq, he wouldn't need your help to do it.)

intresting, a peaceful movement not inquiring to NOT go to war, but asking for us to put a hold to proof is given, i marched it this, and applauded everyone who came to try to make a different, it touched me on many levels, as for those certian citizens who don't approve, they are entitled to their opinion, atter all this is america, the greatest country in the world, but dont mistake our power for perfection, we are faliable, please look at all aspects of it before you bash, i respect the pro-war point of view, but I don't have to agree with it our flagrantly bash it or you, decesions don't make the person, the person obviously makes the decesions, because we live in such a wonderful country we forget that our actions affect other flesh and blood humans --- let us try to remember for gods sake.

Fighting for piece is like fucking for verginity

"Fighting for piece is like fucking for verginity"

What are your limits to peace?

If you are at a store with your children and someone starts viciously physically assaulting them, do you try to negotiate first? Do you run to a phone to call the police? Or, do you step in right there and then to take physical action to protect your children?

Don't tell me that violence solves nothing, because such a statement is pure ignorance.

If FDR and Chamberlain had stepped up prior to Hitler finishing his arming of Germany and had prevented all the death and suffering of WWII, millions would have protested their actions. They would have condemned their actions. The French would be shouting, "Hitler was no threat, after all, we have the Maginot Line." FDR would not have been re-elected and Chamberlain would have been forced out. The history books would have practically branded them as criminals.

I could rattle off dozens of hypotheticals of what may have happened had Saddam remained unchallenged, and any of a number of them could have occurred.

It would have been great if we could have gone back in time and not supported him early on. It would be great if we could go back even earlier in time and help spread a true democracy in that region instead of trying to manipulate our way into cheaper oil. But without that time machine, we must deal with the here and now.

The U.S. leadership supported Saddam to satisfy its immediate polical needs without much thought of the consequences. Many on the left are doing the same thing with Iraq now. They don't see the whole picture. They only see the immediate political need to defeat Bush, and they'll make any future sacrifices and deals with the devil to do so. And if Gore had won and pursued the exact same actions in Afganistan and Iraq, plenty of people on the right would be calling Iraq another Vietnam and protesting the war as well.

Bush has plenty of faults, but the war with Iraq is not one of them.

"Don't tell me that violence solves nothing, because such a statement is pure ignorance. "

Nobody said that. You just made that up, like you always do.

Besides, your metaphor resembles nothing in the world scene that we assail. It's more like we pay some dude to go rob women and children because we don't like the way they do business and then when the chance arrises that we'll be in trouble we turn on them with a faux moral imperative.

we are thugs in the global scene and we have a lot of mess to pick up.

that doesn't mean American citizens are thugs, but they sure love to elect and support thugs, whether they are for Democrats or Republicans.

American citizens are thugs.

Observer, you are a thug, because you are not doing anything to stop it. You're just another ignorant American using this brutality to try to get your party in office. Once there, you'll continue the same brutality.

You say your against this war, but I bet you still pay your taxes to support it.

Yeah, observer, I bet you go to the rallies and make your stupid little signs, but you haven't done one thing to stop it.

While little pricks like you complain, I take real action.